Friday, August 6, 2010

Gay OK

Justice was served this week in California, where a federal judge struck down the clearly discriminatory Proposition 8, which had invalidated the state law allowing same-sex marriages. Chief U.S. District Judge Vaughn Walker got it exactly right when he said that opponents of gay marriage, primarily the loving, caring religious right, were motivated only by their ill will toward gay people. Said Walker in his ruling, “Proposition 8 played on the fear that exposure to homosexuality would turn children into homosexuals and that parents should dread having children who are not heterosexual.” That’s definitely what was on display. Fear, stupidity and hatred. The “holy trinity” of right-wing Christianity. There are reports that Judge Walker is, himself, gay. How did Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush not spot that when they nominated him to the federal bench? Kidding. Anyway, this issue isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Eventually, it will reach the Supreme Court, and how that turns out is anyone’s guess. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Alito, Scalia and Thomas won’t be in favor of gay marriage. But whatever the case, the final outcome is inevitable. There will come a day when gay people in this country can marry just like heterosexuals. And that will be a great day.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we assume the opinion of one judge overrules the votes of 7M voters in California? Why bother to vote?

August 6, 2010 at 7:23 PM  
Blogger Brant said...

What if the majority had voted to reinstate slavery. Would that be something that the courts should just leave along because it was the "will of the people"?

August 6, 2010 at 8:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These right-wing heterosexual people who are out to take away the gay's right to marry because they think it will ruin the sacredness of heterosexual marriage better take a good look at what their fellow hetero's are doing to ruin the institution of marriage.
They move in together and have children and never marry. Great example for their children,(mom and dad don't love or respect each other or them enough to marry. Open marriage where they marry and go around sleeping with every Tom, Dick or Harriet. And lets not forget those moral heterosexual folks on the Maury Povich show looking for their baby daddy amongst 3,4 or more sexual partners. Yeah you self rightous A-holes you'd better police your own before you step on the rights of people who want nothing but a legal,loving committed relationship with all the rights that any heterosexual married couple have. As a heterosexual I believe we all should have that right. It is God's right to judge not yours and if we are right or wrong he will let us know when our time comes. He doesn't need a self appointed committee to do it for him!!

August 7, 2010 at 12:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought we learned a long time ago that you can't legislate morality, no matter what that version of morality may be.

August 8, 2010 at 5:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anon on 8/7:

After the CA ruling, other boards I participate have flogged this issue long and hard. It is simply amazing to see the various ways the proponents of a homosexual lifestyle are choosing to justify their position. You have chosen one not used very often, but has been used many times before.

The real issue at stake is not about marriage, rather about attempts to mainstream and justify homosexual behaviors. Look at the title of this thread, "Gay OK." Just because a judge in CA makes a single ruling, suddenly those choosing to invest their lives into a homosexual relationship are now given an "OK." This is yet one more example of the citizens too lazy to form their own morality from an anchored position. The slothful behavior just wants to let the legal system determine what is "OK" and not "OK."

Your last statements regarding God judging reveals how little you understand about biblical basis for morality. Your terms suggest future tense. How much clearer do you need that what is already known? If you think God's judgment on this matter is questionable, then what else do you think is questionable in His Word? Your statements are similar to so many others, making claims about something for which you know nothing. I would urge you to find the truth, first about eternity, then about what His Word says about behaviors. But, remember, those behaviors are not what keeps you from spending eternity with Him, or not. The eternity question is far more important than any rattling around about a perverted choice of lifestyle.

August 9, 2010 at 8:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brant, this issue was vetted thoroughly before it even went on the ballot, so that the 7M people could vote to ban homosexual marriage. The advocates just kept rattling around an appeal until they found one of their own to make another ruling. What leads you to think this ruling will stand?

August 9, 2010 at 8:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The vote was vetted by heterosexuals. No one should be permitted to vote on someone else's constitutional rights. That is not "equality". What if the roles where reversed? Could you handle the discrimination? Slavery was in the bible...perhaps THAT'S okay? Let's put it to a vote. As long as there's opposition to gay marriage inequality, profiling, bigotry and hate will continue thrive through the generations.

Also, once marriage approval for same-sex couples is made into federal law - hopefully in my lifetime - calling it by any name other than "marriage" will keep the unnecessary labels and prejudices alive.

August 12, 2010 at 6:26 PM  

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