Justice served?
There's been some discussion on an unrelated blog post about the Britnee Moore case in Greene County, so I thought I'd give it its own space. For those who haven't been following the trial, Moore, shown above, was convicted Wednesday of vehicular homicide, manslaughter and other counts in connection with a March 2007 head-on crash that killed another Greene County girl, Hope Maley. According to testimony, Moore was driving 70 mph, on a winding road, in the dark, on the wrong side of the road and was reaching to answer a cell phone when the accident occurred. It seems to me that the jurors did the right thing in convicting her. It's one thing to cause an accident when you are distracted by something. It becomes an entirely different thing - criminal negligence and a total disregard for human life - when you do all the things Moore was doing. But there are some people - very vocal people - who don't think Moore should go to prison. They use phrases like "two wrongs don't make a right" and "that won't bring the other girl back." To me, those are bogus arguments. What's your take?
posted by Brant at
9:30 AM
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Well, she's an adult and I think a remedial driver's ed course would be letting her off a little easy...
--Brad Hundt
She will do her time...Move on...And put this behind her. With her family in her corner it will all work out. My heart goes out to all involved. No one is a winner here. God Bless both families.
A civil penalty would have been more appropriate. This case was not about justice but a District Attorney desiring a case to hang their hat on. Moderation in the seeking of a penalty would have been appropriate.
Vengeance not Justice was served.
Consider whether a long jail term will make any difference in the life of a young person that was driving with an adult license for less than one year.
I understand the grief of the family, but that does not mean that the legal system should be motivated by grief, but instead justice and public interest.
No one is suggesting that remedial driver's ed course would be desired, it was a typical snarky comment that serves to inflame rather than enlighten.
We are discussing the life of someone that made a mistake, one that anyone of us could have done during our youth. Can anyone of the people casting stones truly say that in their early years of driving that they did not:
1. speed
2. Make a bad decision in a motor vehicle
3. Become distracted by their friends, radio, hair, random thoughts or more
I remember that I cannot say that I didn't make those mistakes. Even after long deliberation about my only child and how I would feel about it if they were killed, this would serve no purpose on the criminal side. Civil suits would be the manner to best serve this situation.
I THINK YOU ARE ONE SICK A-HOLE MR. BRANT. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS GIRL HAS GONE THROUGH. SO WHAT ABOUT THE DUI OFFENDERS THAT JUST GET 90 DAYS IN JAIL OR DO WEEKENDS CAUSE THEY HAVE TO SUPPORT A FAMILY. REAL TOUGH ON THEM HUH. BUT THEY WILL GO BACK OUT THERE AGAIN AND AGAIN, MAYBE NEXT TIME THEY DO IT THEY WILL GET AWAY WITH IT MAYBE NOT BUT THEY GET OFF WAY TO EASY. THIS BRINGS NO HONOR TO HOPE. HER MOTHER WILL ALWAYS BE A BITTER PERSON UNTIL SHE LEARNS FORGIVNESS. MY POINT IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN DONT GO CASTING STONES WHEN YOU HAVE BEEN A CARELESS DRIVER, MAYBE YOU DIDNT KILL SOMEONE, BUT YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HAS NO ROOM TO SAY THE HARSH THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID ON HERE WHEN MOST OF US ARE GUILTY OF THESE SAME ACTIONS. IM NOT SAYING SHE SOULDNT BE PUNISHED BUT, NOT TO THE EXTREME THAT SOME POSHE TERS ARE SAYING. IMAGINE WHAT THIS FAMILY HAS GONE THROUGH, MISS MOORE DID NOT COME OUT OF THAT WRECK UNSCARED BOTH MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY SHE HAS PAID A PRICE. REMEMBER ALL OF YOU NASTY POSTERS THAT YOUR LIFE IS NOT OVER YET SO BEFORE SAYING SOME OF THE HARSH THINGS THAT YOU HAVE CHOOSEN TO SAY REMEMBER IT COULD STILL HAPPEN TO YOU OR YOUR CHILDREN OR GRANDCHILDREN HOW WOULD YOU WANT PEOPLE TO SPEAK OF THEM. FOR THE RECORD SHE DOES HAVE REMORSE FOR WHAT SHE DID.
If I kill someone in my car while speeding and being distracted, I should pay for that mistake with a couple of years in jail.
No one has said any harsh things about the girl. They've simply stated the facts of the case and their opinion on what punishment is appropriate. The law provides for prison time for the crimes of which this girl was convicted. But I would guess that the chance of her getting a lengthy sentence is minimal, based on my assumption that she doesn't have a prior criminal record. You can talk apples and oranges all day long, but it doesn't change the facts of this particular case, and a jury unanimously determined that her actions rose to the level of vehicular homicide.
I don't buy into that wishy-washy nonsense about two wrongs don't make a right or that nothing will bring the victim back. While those platitudes might be true, a crime was committed and she should be punished accordingly.
I did plenty of idiotic, dangerous and illegal things when I was younger. But I also knew that if I got caught at any of it, it was my ass and I'd take whatever penalty was given to me.
If she was convicted of vehicular homicide, she should be given the maximum sentence because not only did she kill someone, the death was caused by her gross neglect of safety...both hers and other drivers.
p.s. Typing your posts in capital letters adds no validity to one's opinion. It just makes you look stupid.
Brant I to say you are a big time jerk.You think you know all the facts but you don't.This was a wiotch hunt from the start and Britnee has had remorse for what has happned.She and her family has went through pure Hell with this and that is a fact that Hopes mother will never have a piece of mind untill the day she says I forgive you Britnee thats a fact.The picture of Beth & Britnee was all uncalled for pore taste on the OR no wonder they are going under. I know they are having problems.This makes for a fun day for you and pal Ellipses your both dirt bags Have a nice day scum
Do you dispute the fact that the Moore girl was driving excessively over the speed limit, at night, on a winding road and was in the other girl's lane when the collision occurred? Those are really the only facts that matter. And how easy it must be to call other people names when you can hide behind anonymity. You've added nothing to the discussion. Are there actual facts that you'd like to add? You seem very eager to do so.
I can't speak for brant, but this isn't "fun" for me...
She broke the law on a number of levels... if she is remorseful, that's great... hopefully she will drive more carefully when she gets out of jail.
I don't know what else I can say... If I wreck into someone and it turns out that I was speeding, distracted by coffee, the radio, or a cell phone, and driving recklessly... then I should be found guilty and sentenced to some jail time.
If I were burning brush and carelessly threw some gas on the fire and accidentally burned down my neighbor's house with his kids inside... wouldn't I face some sort of punishment... even if I was sorry and didn't mean to do it?
Brant you still don't know do you.Every thing is your way or no way.brobation would have been enough.She has paid her debt with physical and mental damage but for you and the HEAD HUNTERS thats not enough and P/S to PRIguy what your the one thats stupid any one can tell by your post Have a nice day do try to wreck someone elses lifeand Brad you have made several post not using your name known fer a fact
Laws are passed to be enforced. What if Lee Harvey Oswald had been tried, confessed, and said, "I was aiming at Connelly but a pigeon distracted me." Let him off?
We all do stupid things. Yes, I have driven too fast, fallen asleep at the wheel and made stupid desisions in dangerous conditions while driving. But none of these led to someone's death, or even to property danmage. If they had, I'd have expected to pay the penalty the law dictates, or that set by a jury.
I know, I know -- let he who is without sin, etc., etc. But I'll say again what I said on the other thread -- by telling the dead girl's parents how they should react, those who say they should just suck it up are implying that they reacted incorrectly. What I have learned in my life is that you never know how you will react in a situation until that situation occurs. Wait till someone you love is killed by someone driving dangerously before you say what the correct response is.
So I guess we shouldn't cover this story or talk about it?
A young woman's life was cut short by another's gross negligence. There should be a penalty.
I hope she is sorry for taking another person's life. But sorry alone doesn't mean she shouldn't have to pay a penalty as well.
It's a sad case, but one that hopefully will serve as a cautionary tale.
As for the paper going under, you must be confusing the O-R with some others out there.
To the anonymous poster who was suggesting probation: Perhaps you should cut back a little on the cough syrup. I had no hand whatsoever in deciding whether to prosecute the girl for her misdeeds. I'm merely speaking about the case after the fact. Get a grip.
GOOD LORD, LOOK IN YOUR COMPUTER MANUAL AND FIND OUT HOW TO TAKE OFF CAPS LOCK. AND USE SPELL CHECK.
Is brobation like my brother being my keeper?
Anonymous, a cursory review of your last two posts reveals a minimum of 18 spelling, grammatical and composition errors. Declaring someone stupid when you yourself have barely a rudimentary grasp of the English language makes you look even more pathetic than your blathering posts.
My guess is that you have some sort of connection to Ms. Moore and you can't tolerate other people discussing facts that malign her. I hope she does suffer tremendous emotional pain for the rest of her life. Death tends to bring that on to the victim's family and it ought to be the same for the person guilty of causing the death.
And as always, Ellipses...ZING!
I decided not to be mean and point out "brobation." Mainly because I knew E would take care of it. ;-)
It's like when they separate conjoined twin girls... one girl gets a sisterectomy...
badump-ching!
I'll be here all week, don't forget to tip your waitress!
That was one of the 18 errors I saw. I'm glad that E put his special take on it.
Awe :-) I love everything that y'all bring to the table, too!
Ok, let's stop all this hissing and fighting and take a moment for a virtual group hug!
Hug sandwich! Brant's the meat! :-)
Alrighty... now, back to being men.
Is a wiotch hunt like a biotch slap? Seriously, this should have been settled with a plea for about 5 years. If she has to do more than 10, her life is also basically ruined. At her age, five to eight should be plenty to satisfy everyone.
:-)
I think the maximum is 7...
Probably would get less than that... and then serve a portion of what she gets.
That's just a guess
Pointing out that Ms. Moore is remorseful and has suffered mentally and physically does not count as punishment or payment for her negligence and blantant disregard for the laws of the road. She still has her life regardless of the pain that she is in mentally and physically, the other family cannot say the same. To comment on the Anonymous post about DUIs, I believe alcoholics should be jailed each time they are caught driving under the influence. I am tired of the little programs these drunks get to go to for being complete idiots. I don't believe you should be allowed work release either. You weren't worried about taking care of your family when you were downing a case of beer and then deciding to drive home so don't worry about them when you sober up. No one should get a pass because of stupidity.
MEN IN HUG SANWItCH WITH BRANT AS THE MEeT DOES NOT MAKE US LESSER MEN DON'T YOU READ BRANT'S POSTS ABOUT HOMOSEXUALITY.YOUR NOT HELPING THE HOMOES WHEN YOU SAY STUFF LIKE THAT
Yes, I think justice was served. It's obvious from Mr. Stevens' story that the jury weighed this young woman's future as well as the life that was lost. They agreed Ms. Moore was guilty and negligent. It's similar to that case years ago when a young mother wsa taken to trial (I don't remember the outcome) for being negligent and not putting her infant into a car seat. There was an accident and the baby died. Who wouldn't be sorry and remorseful after something like that or as in this case? It doesn't change the law.
p.s.
I wish our lawmakers would wake up and pass legislation that would make it illegal to use a handheld cell phone. I don't have a problem using a cell phone in a car, but I think you should have an earplug or something.
At the very least, that's what our fine legislators should do, but how would the phone companies and lobbyists feel about that? Aren't they the ones our lawmakers answer to? I'd be for a total ban on cell phone use, though it would be difficult to detect hands-free phone use.
I don't get it either. My wife and I were having this conversation the other day after we were nearly smeared by a person merging on to the parkway at about 65mph while talking on their phone. They were absolutely oblivious to the fact that they nearly caused an accident. I'm all for a person having the freedom to make their own decisions and all, but your right to be stupid and irresponsible should not supercede my right to stay alive.
The questions I have are what is the maximum sentenced allowed under the law in this case, why was it not in the stories in the O-R, and what is the normal sentencing procedure for a person in this situation?
I think that's pretty important to know in making a decision on this woman. Should she go to jail? Yes, because a life was lost by her error. Should she go to jail for 25 years? I think that is excessive.
Why is it that you aren't permitted drive with earphones on listening to music, but you can plug up one ear and zone out on a cellphone? And how about train engineers too busy texting to pay attention to warning lights? Seems to me that business transpired and important meetings were conducted for many years before cellphones came along. What happened to wanting to get away from the phone?
I never understood the headphones thing... I remember a lexus commercial from the mid-late 90's where the car is next to a waterfall... and it seems like the sound is muted, until the door opens and you hear the roar of the water... So, I can lock myself in a soundproof cabin, but I can't rock out to some James Blunt?
BRANT ELLIPSES AND PRIGUY YOU ARE SO PETTY AND CHILDISH TO BE POINTING OUT SOMEONES SPELLING ERRORS. OH I FORGOT GOT YOU 3 HAVE A GOD COMPLEX. AND AS FOR TYPING WITH CAP LOCKS IT DOESNT MAKE ME LOOK STUPID PRIGUY CAUSE STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES AND I HAVE MADE VERY VALIDATED POINTS ON HERE. WAIT BETTER GET THE SPELL CHECK ON DONT WANT TO GET RIDICULED FOR MAKING A MISTAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
God forbid this ever happen and involve a member of your immediate family, Mr. Night Editor. Your paper (online and in print) covered this story completely.
You do look at this case and say, "There but for the grace of God go I." I think we've all had times where we've nearly caused an accident because of something stupid we've done. And most of us did really dumb things behind the wheel when we were kids. The defendant in this case will always be "the girl that killed that other girl in the wreck," and that's a tough thing to live with. To the earlier questioner, I think the maximum sentence I heard talked about was seven years, though I don't think she'll get the max. It should've been in our story.
Did you get free parking with that validated point?
Signed,
God
And Green Stamps.
ME EXERCISE RITES TO USES CAPS SLOCK AND SPELL GOOD ON ME OHN. POINT MAID>:O
warehouse her soul and let it sour. our jobs in greene county count on her going to jail. if we didn't have a prison system in pa the great people of swpa, rednecks and racist (john murtha said that) wouldn't have a job!
Ellipses, no I don't think anyone can rock out to James Blunt!
[You do look at this case and say, "There but for the grace of God go I." ]
For somebody who rejects any notion of God, this is indeed a strange statement. Perhaps just a slip of the tongue (or, fingers on the keyboard).
It's a common saying that goes back almost 500 years. I also say G-dammit an awful lot.
Yes, I believe justice was served in Greene County. I also agree that her sentence should include a few years of jail time, time to reflect about how her actions have affected the lives of the Maley and Pushie family. Miss Maley had such a bright future ahead of her, all of her hopes and dreams lost, her life lost forever. Her life mattered especially to her friends and family. In the courtroom her parents wept along with her friends and other family members while listening to the horrific details of her death. I understand that the Moore family members do not want to see their loved one go to jail, but come on people, look at the facts. She drove in excess of 70 mph totally in the other girl's lane, hit Maley's car full force ( no skid or brake marks ) that's just gross negligence on Moore's part. Even with all the evidence Moore's friends and family still think it's not fair for Miss Moore to serve jail time and maybe have some community service like talking to school children. With statements like, it's foolish for her to be sent to jail and ruin her life because it won't bring Hope back or why should Miss Moore suffer anymore? Was this girl on house arrest all this time? I don't think so. As far as I knew, she could come and go as she pleased, go to the Mall, date, on vacations, etc...Let's say, she's been living her life as she pleases. Hope Maley had no choice when Moore killed her. Miss Moore had the choice to not speed, not answer her phone, to not skip her college class and meet the mysterious person at the Uniontown Mall and being with Louden which cause her to run late which made her speed. She had so many choices that night, and with the choices she made,(all which in my opinion were bad ones)all were careless and without consideration of her family, her boyfriend at the time Pat Mc Clure, her college class that she missed and finally Hope Maley's life. Community service for causing a death? That doesn't seem fair. It seems Miss More doesn't like to pay for anything even her Defense Attorney. A Public Defender was appointed for Moore with our Community dollars. She still resides at home and according to the Public Defender's web site, a person has to be indigent to qualify. A total household income is required to be reported for consideration to qualify. Her father a Vice President of a Bank and her mother is the Xerox Operator for C.G.H.S. A 2 income family. Miss Moore can also afford to take college classes as well as get a nice French Manicure which I notice in the Courtroom as well as in your photo above. As I recall, the definition of indigent is destitute as well as needy. I don't know about you Brant, but this in my book is not an indigent family. So the question is, how did she qualify for a Public Defender? That question still goes unanswered.
I'm trying to check into that matter about the public defender.
MIAMI — Cleveland Browns wide receiver Donte' Stallworth took full responsibility for killing a pedestrian while driving drunk in Florida and began serving a 30-day jail sentence Tuesday after he pleaded guilty to DUI manslaughter.
DUI MANSLAUGTER!!! She isn't going to do a day..
I think the difference in this case is that Stallworth paid the victim's family an "undisclosed" amount of money. I'm guessing that cut into their desire to see him do hard time.
Hey Brant, I agree with you, the money talked there bigtime. They also failed to mention that he will also have 2 years of house arrest, 8 years probation with drug and alcohol testing, along with his driving privileges being suspended forever. That was for DUI Manslaughter. Not Homicide by Vehicle, Involuntary Manslaughter and Endangering another person. Plus he pleaded guilty and took responsibility for his actions, didn't request a trial by jury. It seems to me that Mr. Stallworth is the one that wanted all of this to go away fast so he could continue to play football.
What do you think the odds are of Stallworth making it through his probationary period without further incident? I'm thinking the odds are against it.
I'm think'n you're probably right!
Plea deals usually are less severe punishment. The guilty take responsibility for the crimes they commit and in return the punishment is not as harsh. There is a major difference in these two cases. Moore plead not guilty and requested a jury trial. A jury of her peers found her guilty on three separate charges and one of them being homicide by vehicle. Stallworth reportedly cooperated with authorities. Moore did not take the stand at the trial. Does that mean she pleaded the 5th?
I recall a case where a young man in his early 20's took a life a few years ago. It was his first offense and I think he got two years in prison or more on a plea bargain. No plea was made in this case. It sounds to me someone in the defendants camp thinks that woman may not do a day of prison or jail. I sure hope they are wrong. The sentence should not be lightened. Five to six years is fair in my opinion. It should be equal treatment. Just because it is a woman it should not make a difference. The same goes for her age. It should not make a difference. If it was a 40 year old man people would expect a prison sentence.
A seven year prison sentence is nothing compared to a life taken if you ask me. People get more time for selling drugs or robbery.
Look at Michael Vick. He got 23 months in prison for cruelty to dogs. Moore and Stallworth both took a human life. The punishment should be more severe then 23 months in prison.
I agree that a prison sentence is no comparison to ending or taking a person's life. The woman should do her time in prison.
Hey Brant, did you ever get a chance to look into the matter of Moore's Public Defender yet? I'm still curious as to how Britnee Moore and her family were able to qualify for that.
I was in the courtroom during the trial. One piece of evidence that I am still wondering about is an email sent from Britnee Moore to one of the Brandon's that testified. In the email it called Britnee Moore's former friend a snitch. It was never made clear what she snitched about.Did it have to do with drugs?
I thought the "snitch" thing had to do with the friend that indicated that Moore was using a cell phone at the time of the crash...
That's a good question. My interpretation of that was that the friend told all she knew to the Police after Britnee told them she didn't remember what happened when she did. The way I understood it was Miss Moore didn't tell the police the whole truth. Maybe that's why she didn't take the stand. Meeting that guy in Uniontown sounded like a drug deal to me.
The snicth thing is a good question. The phone records would prove about cell phone usage. No one would have to snitch about that. I think there is more to all of this. The question is does it have to do with drugs?
Has there been anything new in this case? Can Moore still be charged on additional charges if new information comes to light?
Anything new with this case?
Only what they finally paid "Dr. Eck" the expert reconstruction specialist. Common Pleas public record docket states that the county paid him more than what the County's Public Defender's budget allowed. The question is why? First, it was not to exceed $1,000.00, then an additional $3,500.00, final payment was over $6,800.00 just for Eck alone. Hmmm... Greene County's taxpayer dollars well spent?
J.B. Fair
I saw that too, unreal.
According to the public docket, Moore's sentencing will be on
July 30th, at 9:00 AM
Hey, has it ever been said if Moore was tested for drugs or not the night she killed that young girl? Isn't that a standard procedure when a fatality is involved?
Curious
I recall that fellow in his twenties that killed someone while he was driving a couple years ago. He was charged with the same things. The crash happened in Greene but they were not from Greene. He got a min. two years in prison on a plea. I think they cut him a break because it was a plea. That's only my opinion.
Noticed the OR doesn't post all comments on this story any longer.
I actually know this girl. She had my whole family convinced that she felt horrible for what happened and she never meant to hurt anyone. But as time went on, her acts and comments started to prove that she only cared about herself since she was laid up in the hospital for a year. I pulled myself away from the situation to look at it objectively and as she started to violate her parole (coming home way past curfew and hanging around places that serve alcohol) I realized she doesn't feel sorry for anyone but herself. I thought back to all the conversations that we had and I also realized that her story about what happened was never the same. I asked my mother what she had remember from Britnee's stories and her's didn't add up to mine, until Britnee told me she grabbed her phone and answered it. As for drugs being apart of it, I heard her mention something of them but I know for a fact that Brandon (the ex boyfriend) was always high on something.
Her parents are nice people and they have tried to keep her out of trouble but she still just doesn't care. The last few times I spoke to her (mind you this was before her hearing,) she kept laughing that she was going to jail and that it didn't matter anyway. The point is she doesn't feel bad and she was doing all of the wrong things while driving. She deserves to go to jail for taking someones life. Hope will never get to experience the birth of a child, graduate college or even turn 17. Britnee could, she can move on with her life but she should be punished for what she's done. It is against the law to kill someone, even behind the wheel of a car.
Curious, no she was never tested for drugs.
The Moore's are asking people to write letters for Britnee. I would not write one for her. She killed someone. They are asking for letters of recommendation. That is wrong in my opinion and she should just do her time.
How do you know she was tested for drugs or not?
Did she tell someone that?
just curious
It was in the newspaer today where a man was convicted and sentenced to 42 months in prison for theft. The country is outraged over Bernie Madhoff. Moore took a person's life not money or property. I hope the punishment she gets is severe.
Why wouldn't they have peformed a drug test on the woman?
Her parents had told me that they did not do a drug test as did Britnee herself. They should have, but they didn't. And a recommendation? Why? She deserves what's coming to her.
Don't you find that strange if a drug test was not done when a fatality was involved? Do you know why one was supposedly not done?
They did ask for letters for Britnee. I won't write it for her.
Moore gave an apology letter to the media today, but according to a member of the Maley family, Miss. Moore never gave one to them.
I just looked at the WPXI website, and there are some myspace photos of the convicted.
I don't know how any one else feels but to aplogize the day of sentencing and never before seems like a slap in the face to the people who care about the deceased.
I was told that the defense attorney and Moore passed on by the victim's family and headed straight to the media to deliver that letter that they never seemed to bother with giving to the victim's family.
Why give a letter to the media addressed to the family of Hope Maley but never give one to Hope's family?
Look at the photos on Britnee's myspace and you'll see how horrible she felt after killing an innocent girl. Do I feel bad for her? Absolutely not. Do I think prison time will change her? Absolutely not. But it will one less dangerous driver on the road.
I agree at least she won't be on the road. But 5 to 36 months is not long enough. 13 more days until she is off the road and locked up!
Why didn't they haul her rear off that day, most of the time they do.
There is a survey on the OR about Moore's sentencing. It needs to be more detailed, I put no but I mean no because it should have been harsher. A no could be taken the wrong way.
According to the reports Britnee Moore will be taken to jail on August 14th.
That is 11 days from today. What was the delay? Why wasn't she taken on the sentencing day? I know someone who was taken that same day and he was not even allowed to kiss his children good bye.
I saw on WPXI's web site photos of Britnee Moore after the crash. I just went to WPXI in Pittsburgh and typed in Britnee Moore in the search engine and the story came up. The link for slide show photos is there.They are very telling.
That woman in New York that killed those innocent people got tested for pot. Was Moore tested for pot? if not, why not?
As far as people know, the answer is no. Moore was not tested for drugs according to the newpaper.
I think that is a good question for people to ask the District Attorney about. Elected Officials need to be held accountable along with everyone else.
I watched a news clip on WTAE, and it appeared that the convicted and her supporters were happy and celebrating after the sentencing.
For the people that seek justice, I hope they find comfort in that woman will be behind bars very soon.
I am outraged that Britney Moore was allegedly not tested for marijaunna or other drugs.
It has been all over the news where that young mother that killed those innocent people had been tested. Why would the Moore woman not be tested?
Less than 48 hours and the Moore woman will be behind bars. Has anyone heard anything else??
The news has been talking about depraved indifference with the case regarding the mother that allegedly drove drunk and on pot. If her husband knew she did drugs is he also to blame? What about the Moore woman's parents and men in her life? If they allegedly knew she did certain alleged things and drove, are they also to blame? Jail may only be the beginning. Time will tell. I recall the OJ trials. Many facts came out after the criminal trial. Facts have a way of surfacing.
You got that right! Facts do surface.
Hey, did Moore go to jail today?
Moore did go to jail. I saw her mug shot on the Greene County jail website. There was an article in the OR today where a woman Tiffany Bogumit was sentenced to 1-3 1/2 years in prison for robbery. That is longer than what Moore received and is Bogumit at SCI Muncy not the county jail?
Rumor has it that Moore allegedly does not want to pay her court costs. Allegedly her public defender may appeal them. Whose favor will the Judge rule? The Commonwealth or Moore?
How did the Judge find Britnee Moore not guilty on the speeding charge? Didn't the police already prove that during the trial? Why doesn't a jury decide those charges?
If I were the State Police that would seem like a slap in the face to me.
Heard an interesting rumor that the mother was at the courthouse Friday with camera's and the like. What the heck was that all about? Does this lady work? And for the speeding charge, no-one ever came up with an exact speed. It was between 58 and 70. Kind of a broad range dont you think? Now that the woman is in jail, maybe some closure can begin, or will the harrasment continue?
To answer the question about the mother... no she doesn't work. She is apparently on disability...way before her daughters accident for some vision problem.....funny cause I've seen her driving. Answer that one.
On WPXI's website it shows Britnee Moore,an older woman and a young man walking. Was that man Patrick McClure or Brandon Louden?Or a man not named in the trial? Was more said at the trial than was printed?
I looked up Moore's photo too. The greene county prison has a look up tool.
What is amazing to me is that I personally have seen not only the mother, but both young ladies that testified at the trial be on their cell phones while driving. And the 2 young ladies that were interviewed after the verdit was announced also driving while on their phones, kind of hypocritical if you ask me. Hopefully nothing ever happens to those individuals, because are they gonna want mercy or be treated as the defendant has been?
The LOOK UP INMATE is at the bottom of the page on the Greene County Prison's website
58-70 MPH is not 45MPH, so how did a judge find not guilty for speeding?
The 58-70 was merely a range the state police came up with. No one for sure knows the true speed thus no speeding charges.
The Police are able to determine speed and that is exactly what they did. That is a good question. How did the Judge in that case find the convicted not guilty on the speeding charge?
Sorry LJ, they were not able to determine the exact speed only an estimate. No one will ever know the exact speed. End of conversation!
I had a problem finding Britnee Moore's mug shot. Finally it worked and I was able to pull it up on the Greene County Prison's web site. FYI- The spelling has to be exact or it won't work. It took a couple of days to figure out that I was spelling her name wrong and that's why it would not work.
Wow, you get pleasure by looking at someones mug shot? And it took you days finding out how to pull it up? What is the world coming to?
The kind of world that wants to see criminals off the streets.
The fact of the matter is Britnee Moore is a convicted felon.
You refer to Britnee Moore and the defendant. She is the convicted and one of those "girls" that you write of are going to be a nurse. Can a convicted felon be a nurse?
The trial is over, she was sentenced. When will everyone let this go? There are alot of other things to concentrate on such as your own familes,kids school, jobs, ect. Someone has alot of extra time on their hands. Get on with it.
I believe the answer to the above question is no, a covicted felon can not be a nurse.
To say she cannot be a nurse is incorrect. It is up to the employer. Some may say no but some may say yes. There is no rule that prohibits her from being a nurse.And the felony was an F-3 one step ahead of DUI.
There is an abundance of nurses that are not convicts. Why would an employer pick a convict over another nurse that has a clean record. Very unrealistic.
Over abundance? I dont think so, there is a great need for more nurses, not sure what planet you live on?
You two keep talking about being a nurse. Who really cares.Didn't the paper say that Moore woman had a public defender? To be eligible for a public defender one has to be deemed indigent. She is not in college. She is in jail. She is not going anywhere right now.
You say indegent? I would say that nearly 100% of 18 year olds would fall under that term. I know very few that have assets at that age.
The only older women that I saw on the news with Moore were her mom and Pat McClure's mom. The only man I saw besides her attorney was a guy named Dennis Cole. He is allegedly from Canonsburg.
Wow are you a private detective? You seem to know who people are,ect. You must to have done some research to figure that out? What in the world does any of this have to do with anything? Sounds like one has alot of down time on their hands. A Job would help.
I have seen that guy to but we did not know his name. I never saw Pat McClure on the news. Was he there?
Who was the older women with Darlene Maley at the courthouse? Who was the red head attorney? Why was the mom out back the courthouse last Friday? Is the Greene Speak editor and Ms Maley sisters? Finally, what does any of the above referenced blogs have to do with anything? Thats what I thought, nothing! Ms. Moore is in jail! It is over and done with, MOVE ON!
How can Moore work while she is in jail? I don't think she can. Did she work at the time she killed that young girl? If so did working help her?
Work while in jail? Did working help her? What type of moronic questions are those?
I don't think she can work while in jail. Not sure though. That woman isn't going anywhere for a long time. Didn't the paper say 5-36 months? It's only been a short time since the sentencing. She is behind bars now.
Darlene and Greene Speak lady, Cindy are not sisters but they are connected at the hip. Mainly, because Cindy will write anything Darlene wants her to and make her look like the one and only victim trying to move on without Hope in their lives. Hope had a really big family who all loved her just as much and who treated her a lot better than her mother treated her most of the time. Can you say "guilt".
It is my belief that convicts do not work outside of prison unless a Judge permits work release.
Yea, alot of folks are saying the same thing about the mother. I hear that is why both brother and sister have been with the dad since a very young age. The father and his new wife are of outstanding character.
What's Moore working have to do with anything? She is in prison and not going anywhere but the Greene County Prison for many months according to her sentencing.
I would only hope that when the young lady gets out, that people can leave her be. Someone must have an agenda against her. For all that post negative comments, I only pray this never happens to any of your family members. Sometimes things come full circle? Seriously, it is over, move on to another subject.
Some one metioned the Greene Speak paper. I read that article this month. If you haven't got a chance to read it yet, I would suggest looking it up. It was very interesting. Most informative.
Greene Speak? Not interesting. All one sided as always. She is the sister of Darlene.
Those ladies are not related. What are you talking about? Did anyone see that photo of Britnee Moore celebrating after she killed the victim? Moore was celebrating with a cell phone cake. If you didn't see the Greene Speak, I also saw the photo on WPXI.com. That said it all to me. Pictures don't lie.
No Darlene and Cindy are not related but they may as well be. Greene Speak is totally one sided. She claims to be fair and neutral but the only person she ever interviews or quotes is Darlene or "friends" of Darlene. Mr and Mrs Maley are outstanding people and have handled themselves amazingly well during these procedings. Watching Mr Maley in the courtroom you could see the incredible loss that he feels just by his eyes alone. It's nice to see one parent who is genuine and not trying to publicize the loss of a child.
Those photos of Britnee Moore made my stomache feel sick. Those were taken after she killed Hope Maley. I don't think I will ever forget that image.
You know, I have followed this for 2 and some odd years now and I have to remind myself that when this happened Britnee was only 18. I realize that those pictures come off as disrespectful and callous, but do you honestly think that she was really thinking when she did that. I know what its like in the hospital and I know that nurses try really hard to cheer their patients up especially the young ones. I have to wonder if this was just Britnee and the nurses and some friends acting silly trying to lighten the mood. I was 18 once....a long time ago and I can remember some dumb things I did without thinking. I'm not taking her side, but she was a young, stupid kid when this happened and obviously not using her better judgement. Just because the accident happened and was caused by using a cell phone doesn't mean that she should have given up talking on the phone all together. She was still in the hospital when those pics were taken and was not aware of the impact her decisions made that night would be. Give her the benefit of the doubt. She's already in jail....will that ever make up for what she did?
When those photos were taken, no-one knew what had actually caused the accident. Not until 14 months after the accident were charges brought, then it was revealed the cell phone was even an issue. The nursing staff who purchased the cake also had absolutley no idea anything about the case, so how could they be held accountable? People really need to move on, it is not healthy living the past?
PFFT!
I'm a first time reader of your 'Blog' and as far as blogging goes this is a joke!
I see so many Anonymous posters here with poor spelling and CAPS LOCK disorder. If these folks were posting comments to my blog I'd be ashamed =*(
Mr Newman, why don't you take up another profession, like Dog Catcher. And you comment posters need to brush up on your spelling and learn to use your computers WISELY.
Does Craig Maley and his wife plan to sue Britnee Moore or is it just the ex wife?
If your really curious about whats going on at the competitions place, check it out http://greenespeak.com/
I think it speaks volumes about the mentality of some people when they continue to beat up Hope & Hopes mother.
I believe that it is Darlene who is suing for everything under the sun. From what I've heard, Mr. Maley and his wife, and Hope's brother, just want to start moving on with their lives, or atleast try the best that they can.
Yea, everyone in Greene County knows who keeps pushing this on, the mother and Greene Speak. The father and his family would sure love to move on with some normalcy, but the ex wont let it happen. Everyone thought once the defendent got sentenced and began serving her time, the mother would quit the harrassing, but it continues. And for the suing part, the father withdrew his name from everything.
I read through all of these comments. Are people grasping that Britnee Moore killed an innocent human being. She didn't have a minor fender bender in a parking lot. She caused a person to die. I applaud the Greene Speak news after reading that. I thought I had heard everything there was to hear about the story but that article really shed the most light. Truth tends to scare or ruffle the feathers of some.
The Greene Speak report did not shed any additional information other than what the Observer has already reported. What are you talking about? Or trying to promote? Shedding light? What the heck? It says no-one other than mother will talk with the Greene Speak.
Goodness, I'm shocked to see that everyone is so supportive of a convicted felon!
To all of those crying out for mercy, prayer, and forgiveness for Ms Moore, might I make an observation? I suggest that if it had been *your* child who had been killed as the result of the wanton recklessness of another, that you just might find yourself singing a slightly different tune. It's entirely probable that all of those *warm and fuzzy* feelings would fly right out of the nearest window.
And shame on the posters who continue to skewer Miss Maley's Mother. Look people--she has lost her child. Nothing will ever alter that fact, and nothing will ever assuage that unending pain. Nothing.
As for Greenespeak and Cindy Baily, I can assure you that she calls them as she sees them. Don't like her? Too bad. Evidently, many others do, as her paper continues to pick up new readers.
I don't recall any other members of the victim's family talking to the Observer Reporter or TV Stations. I only saw the mom there. Surely if anyone else wanted to speak to the Observer Reporter or to Greene Speak and TV Stations I am sure the media's doors would always be open to anyone. For the cake with the cell phone allegedly being bought by the nurses. Really? If the nurses were asked about buying a cell phone cake what do you think their response would be?
Cellphone cake... I checked with a friend of mine that is a nurse at that UPMC hospital that took care of Miss Moore. He said that the nurses had a small round cake for her not a cellphone cake. They have a picture of her with them with the small round cake.
Nice one, which hospital was it? UPMC has over 25,000 employees, some coincindence that you have a friend of a friend of a friend? Move on with you investigation, you arent fooling anyone but yourself.
Are we suppose to buy that a sheet cake with a cell phone on it was allegedly bought by the nurses for her? Is that like the doctor allegedly wanting Britnee Moore to pose for a photo with her leg over her head and her tongue hanging out? I did see a photo of Britnee Moore and some of the nursing staff with a very small round cake. I did not see any nurse with her and her cell phone cake. By the way there were not 25,000 nurses on the floor Moore was a patient of. Not that many at all.
Regardless of who bought the "cake" it was purchased, however what relevancy does it have to anything? It was 4 months after the accident and no-one knew the exact cause of the accident. Seriously you need to move on. For everyones health, you are gonna make yourself sick. And FYI no-one said there were 25,000 nurses on the floor Moore was on. Only that with over 25,000 employees it was just a co-incidence that you had a friend who worked that exact floor of the exact hospital? That is really grasping? It is over, the defendant is in jail. What else do you want? More press than what you have already seeked out? You need help!!!!!!!!!!
Speaking of the hospital, isn't it mandatory for drug testing? Why would a hospital allegedly not do one? Did Greene County's District Attorney order it? If that crash happened in Washington County I think our DA would have had the results if drugs were in the criminal's system or not in the system. He would have had them one way or another.
To the person who saw the picture of Moore in the the hospital with the other cake are you able to post it to this sight? Wow two cakes, how much did she celebrate while in the hospital?
I heard the cake was chocolate and square,now they're trying to say it was marble and round. It was butter cream icing too and not the marshmallow icing that has been reported by those people. Ugh! I wish they'd get their facts straight. It shows who really knows what they're talking about.
Did they have any ice cream with the cake?
Did Moore say the doctor wanted her to put her leg over her head like that?
What's up with the Judge reconsidering her sentence?
Exactly my question. There's something else that has been bothering me. Miss Moore's family is certainly not destitute, so how did she manage to fit into the income parameters in order to qualify for a public defender? Also, is there any truth to the widely circulated rumor (And please note that I said *rumor*) that her attorney is requesting that her court costs be waived? Now, if her court costs are waived, guess who pays for it?
Greene County tax payers would probably have to foot the bill if that happens. Tell me again how did she qualify for the public defender.
Why doesn't Judge Nalitz's reconsider every person's sentence in Greene County while he's at it?
Exactly---the taxpayers would end up footing the bill. This whole drama has made me lose total faith in the legal system. Evidently, the *law* doesn't always equal justice.
It has been said 1000 times if not more, that Ms Moores income and assets were very minimal, she would qualify for a public defender. She was charged and treated as an adult, and as an adult she would qualify. Her parents have absolutely nothing to do with this accident whatsoever. Period, end of sentence. And with reference to the costs being waived, the only persons that would know if this is accurate are the attorneys involved. So how could this leak?
To the previous poster. You did note that I said that it was a widely circulated *rumor*. At no time did I intimate that it is true. That being said, her attorney would have to file a brief and have a hearing scheduled, which would mean that it would appear on the public docket. In that case, it could be easily proven, or disproved, whatever the case may be.
To the last poster, you obviously know alot so without question you must be an insider to the case. Might want to be careful what you post.
I hope some one investigates all that and gets to the bottom of tax dollars being spent on Moore's defense. I heard thousands went to that Eck guy for the defense, close to $7000 to be exact. Huey Gillespie made some money from the tax payers also according to the public docket.
I wondered about that too, how can an indigent person afford to go to Waynesburg College? My husband and I both work and we have to send our kinds to Cal.
Is the parole and probation of the convicted the only item in question there? Come on a Judge does not have more important things to be doing? What's going on?
Our kinds? What is that? And have you ever heard of student loans? I know alot of people that send their children to school and guess what? They get loans. Maybe want to look into that so your KINDS could go elsewhere.
The newspaper stated that is the reason for the hearing. Who has jurisdiction over Britnee Moore's release and probation. What's it to the Judge if the State has jurisdiction? He did his job and sentenced her. Why would he get so involved? That whole scenario screams red flag in my opinion.
Why not get a loan and pay for her criminal costs? If a convict or her family can get loans for college? Why make the tax payers pay for it?
What exactly did Craig Maley allegedly remove his name from? Is it true that Britnee Moore resided at the residence of her parents before taken to prison? Is her dad an executive for First Federal Of Greene County Bank? Britnee Moore has a court appointed attorney? Is it true the taxpayers have been paying for her defense? Is someone saying she was able to go to Waynesburg college and she isn't paying for her own attorney?
Student loans are not repaid until after you graduate. And most within a short time after graduation obtain a job. Then the loans can begin to be repaid. Additionally, Britnee's parents have nothing in this. They were not charged nor were they involved in the accident. Why the need to continue to bring them up? And I personally do not know many 18 year olds that could afford an attorney. You all wanted her treated as an adult, well as an adult she has rights and those rights permit her to have an court appointed attorney if she can not afford one. How much clearer can this get? Sounds like someone has alot of time on their hands. Who might be the poster?
I caught the news last week, what's going on now? Surely some one is taking notice of all that has been happening down there.
No one has to take a loan to pay court costs. The county already paid them. An individual can make payments. That's how most people do it, most just make payments. It is not required to pay the entire costs at one time or in one lump some.How do you think others do it? If everybody could get out of paying how would the county afford that?
Nobody said anything about court costs not being paid. And furthermore, I dont know of any attorneys who set you up on payment plans. You are talking about 2 totally different subjects. Court costs versus Defense attorney costs. Not the same thing. And the county doesnt pay the fees, they are sent to the defendant to pay. Gettin it straight!
The Court costs are being quesioned I think. Court costs can be made by payments. All fees are not required at once. They can be paid over time. If people can get out of paying the court costs maybe a memo should be sent to all the individuals that are currently making payments.
A Judge does not normally get so involved. Once sentencing is over, a Judge’s job is usually complete. Personally I can not imagine why a Judge would want to create such public scrutiny over a convicted person’s parole or probation. It raises the question why.
After reading the guilty party was only sentenced to five months was a little shocking and now Judge Nalitz is going to reconsider his own sentence ordered to Britnee Moore. I heard that an attorney did not even appeal the sentence. Allegedly Judge Nalitz made the order to reconsider himself.It appears he is questioning his own ruling.It's all hard to make sense of.
Justice served? - On this earth, yes. Charges were filed, a trial occured, and a sentence was handed down. According to a jury of Ms. Moore's peers, she was found guilty of taking the life of another. Justice in the hearts of the family of Hope Maley? Never. It will never be right that their Hope was killed because of the negligence of someone else. There will always be grief, pain, anger... It will differ with each person and over time. I say this, because I know first hand having lost my son to a drunk driver. We sat through the hearings and trial, and left justice up to the court system. I like Darlene, did not contact the DA's office or demand justice. We were contacted and notified of what charges would be filed. Our grief played no part in what or how things were done, nor did it in anyway influence the DA or her staff in how they did their jobs. They followed the law to the letter. The same laws that we all are held accountable to.
To those who want to paint Darlene Maley as vindictive because she wants justice, needs to understand the difference, and only needs to walk a mile in her shoes to know the pain and grief she lives with daily. And know that pain will be there as long as she lives. Yes life goes on and it does get better, but the loss will always be there. Even after five years, my heart still aches everyday and I still cry when I realize times my son should be here. My whole life and who I am has changed. People treat you differently because they don't understand. I would not wish the loss of a child on my worst enemy. It literally has been hell.
Did Ms. Moore make mistakes that we all may have done ourselves? Yes, but hers resulted in a negative outcome, the death of Ms. Maley. So according to the LAW, not Ms. Maley's mother, Ms. Moore was found guilty and given a sentence. So justice was served, not vengenance. If you break the law, and get caught - you pay the penalty. So the next time you do what Ms. Moore did (speed, talk on cell phone, get distracted), know that if there is a negative outcome, you will be held accountable. It's your decision.
As far as the comments made about whether or not drug testing was done on Ms. Moore, most trauma center's protocol is that a drug screen panel is done because of the treatments and meds they have to give. So I find it hard to believe that one wasn't done. Maybe it was negative and not an issue. As far as why the DA did not order one, when would they have done that. First you have an investigation by the State Police that takes a lot of time, and then the info is turned over to the DA. This could be days, wks or months before the DA is brought in.
I believe the reasons we have laws with penalties, are to act as a deterrent. What you do in life is a choice. If you choose to do something that breaks the law, causes others harm or death - then know there will be consequences to pay. Even if we really feel bad about the outcome afterwards. The time to feel bad and think about what we can do to prevent this from happening again is now, before someone else has to die and another mother/family has to bury a loved one.
I read somewhere that The District Attorney was present at the scene of the crash. She was involved from almost the moment that young victim was killed. The Greene Speak newspaper stated Hope Maley was given a blood test and all tests proved to be negative. I also read somewhere No drug tests were allegedly performed on Britnee Moore.If a drug test is not performed, it does not mean that drugs are not a factor or present in a person's system. It just means that there are allegedly no results either way. The biggest question that it raises is- if a drug test was not performed on the convicted and a DA did not order one, why not?
The second question raised in that case is- what's going on with a Judge wanting to resentence her?
I don't get that re-sentencing hearing either. What's up with that?
And no drug test? What?
What is up with rehashing items that are old news? The young lady is sentenced and serving time. IT IS OVER! MOVE ON!
Right you are. No new ground has been plowed here for ages. It's the same old claims, counterclaims, rumors and innuendo. We're going to end it right here. Feel free to add comments to any news stories that appear in the future.
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