Thursday, July 9, 2009

Racism is alive and well

So much for that "City of Brotherly Love" thing. According to an AP story, a day camp director says her kids were tossed out of a private swim club recently in suburban Philadelphia after members allegedly questioned what black children were doing in the pool. Creative Steps day camp had paid fees to swim at the pool, but camp director Alethea Wright says three of her kids told her they heard members of The Valley Club ask what blacks were doing there. Several days later, Wright says the camp’s swimming fees were refunded, without explanation. The president of the club, John Duesler, told a Philly television station that several club members had lodged complaints because the black children "fundamentally changed the atmosphere" at the pool. He said the complaints didn't involve race. Noooooooo. Of course not. The members were probably concerned that the black kids would create safety hazards by getting fried chicken grease all over the diving board and spitting watermelon seeds everywhere. What's next at The Valley Club? Night swimming, softly lit by burning crosses?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sickening that this racism still exists.

July 9, 2009 at 1:40 PM  
Anonymous not racist, i hate you all equal said...

I think more blacks are racist then whites! White people don't have a WET channel like BET. White people don't have all white schools. White people don't have a white america beauty queen. We can go on and on and on about how blacks segergate themselves. How about a whitey college fund? Nope don't have one. How about affirmative action for white brothers? Ain't going to happen.

If the pool doesn't get state or city funds, and is pvt run, they should be able to say who is allowed and who isn't!

Brant when you blow up your kids little blue pool this weekend, go out and find one black kid to come over and swim. Wait an hour now go find 2 more black kids to come swim, you will see a huge difference.

July 9, 2009 at 3:47 PM  
Blogger Brant said...

I'm not sure I follow your "logic" about periodically adding black youngsters to my kiddie pool, but it would be an amusing scene, since my kids are now 20 and 25 years old.

July 9, 2009 at 4:04 PM  
Anonymous not racist, i hate you all equal said...

well don't do that then... people will think m. jackson moved to sw pa.

Funny how all white celebrities adobt black kids and M.J. grew white kids in tubes! SHEESH!

July 9, 2009 at 4:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

brant gay guys are allowed to have kids? or did you have them as a front? Did they call you dad and E mom? How does this work?

July 9, 2009 at 4:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're just ignoring the fact that other groups were also kicked out, and that didn't involve any black kids. Did anyone care when that happened?

July 9, 2009 at 4:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WET is NBC, ABC, CBS, MTV...MISS USA is your white beauty contest..Yale, Tulane, UofM, etc is your white only schools.. if you knew your history at all you would know that...but I am sure your lack of knowledge is only out weighted by your ignorance.

July 9, 2009 at 5:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why does everyone ignore the rest of the article about how two other groups got their privledges taken back as well? Or does that not fit into the "oh we are so downtrodden" mentality?

July 9, 2009 at 5:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exactly, He said two other day-care centers, neither of which included minority children, had previously been similarly disinvited. So can we put the race card to rest? Racism is a two way street. Can't really blame someone else for it, then in turn use it as an excuse when things don't go your way. Does that make me a racist? If it does, I blame the fact that I had an ancestor I never knew who suffered a potato famine back in the day. There, played the potato famine card 5 times today, wonder if I can get it up to 20 before the day is over.

July 9, 2009 at 5:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a group of kids (happen to be black) as un-invited, as other groups of kids have in the past, and out comes the race card.

How can black people ever be treated fairly if they pull out the race card whenever they want to get their way? It just makes it harder for us all to move forward.

I can't play for the L.A clippers, but it's because I suck at basketball, not because I'm white.

July 9, 2009 at 5:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was told I can't play for the clippers because I suck at basketball... I think it's actually because im Scottish.

July 9, 2009 at 6:02 PM  
OpenID johnrj08 said...

John Murtha was obviously correct when he stated during the presidential campaign that parts of Pennsylvania were populated by ignorant, rednecked bigots.

July 9, 2009 at 6:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh so people who actually read the entire story without taking bits and pieces out of context are "ignorant bigots". And by the way I live in California, voted Obama, and love the environment. But I hate the race card, it's been over 100 years, get over it.

July 9, 2009 at 6:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to "not racist, i hate you all equal"-thank you for pointing out how ignorant you are with your comment. EVERYTHING that's not designated "black" ie BET is white you idiot. you don't have to call it white it just IS. want WET? try FOX, ABC, NBC, MTV, HBO-the list goes on. in fact check out all of the movies that are out right now. what color are all of our lead actors/actress. you guessed it WHITE. white beauty pagent? how about every american pagent, not to mention every american beauty magazine (cosmo, vogue, allure-again the list goes on) that constantly confirms that beauty is white. as for white affirmative action-you're kidding right? you do know what the purpose of affirmative action is, right? never mind-i previously stated you're ignorant so you probably don't.
i don't have a problem with white people-i'm just sick of this dumb argument. white people in american are in now way slighted or oppressed because black people have BET. so quit bitchin'

the problem wasn't there not being enough room for the kids to come swim-the problem is them being kicked out just becuase they're black. since we sue for any and everything in this country. i hope one of the parents of those kids sues that stupid club.

July 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the comment right above this one. ARE YOU SERIOUSLY KIDDING ME? You are blaming white people for having the leads in most movies? Have you seen movies with all-black casts? THEY SUCK. Talk about playing into stereotypes, they're always about gang violence, smoking weed, barber shops, and domestic violence. If you want to watch only black actors on television, sick of all the "white" agenda that currently exists, there's a perfectly good flight to Ghana, or Nigeria leaving tomorrow afternoon I'm sure you could catch. The exit is always available.

July 9, 2009 at 6:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the comment above mine. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? You are blaming black people for being tired of being treated like 2nd class citizens? You shouldnt talk about black movies when its quite obvious your a bigot with a statement like that. If you're tired of all the things that show black people are promininet as whitey is then I suggest you move back to Germany, or Ireland because there's a perfectly good flight tomorrow.

July 9, 2009 at 6:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, last I check you were the one bitching about this great country of ours. Don't like it, the exits in plain sight. Black people have overplayed their race card so much that people have been lashing back all day on articles about this news everywhere. People like you will spin this to the amazingly large group of bigots, but maybe its people sick and tired of hearing about this race crap over and over and over and over and over again.

July 9, 2009 at 7:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those Philadelphians pay dearly for exclusivity/safety. Rather like a church, they desire nothing more than like-minded associations. In other words, individuals with standards of behavior, speech and education. Is this too much to ask? After all, these are the folks whose taxes pay for a myriad of minority subsidies.

July 9, 2009 at 7:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"two other day-care centers, neither of which included minority children, had previously been similarly disinvited.”

That doesnt matter they heard bad things said about them
And they were dis-invited.

So it must be a racist thing... it has to be... because their black right?

I guess no one reported crap they said about white kids, day in and day out, as that isnt racist.

Sorry but just another example of pulling a race card, anywhere, and all the dam time!

July 9, 2009 at 7:21 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While their appears to be plenty of racist sentiment at this swim club (and on these comments), let's not lose sight of the fact that is a private swim club. It seems to me that being a private entity, they ought be permitted to decide for themselves whom they will allow as members or guests. There was a time in this country when people were free to choose with whom they would associate (or not) in private matters. Along with many other rights, we have given up the right of free association for fear of being branded a racist, or an elitist, or a sexist, or a liberal or conservative.
On the other hand, this group (and the 2 others) did have a valid contract which should have been honored once entered into. Perhaps the contract had a clause allowing the private club to end the contract upon refund of all monies paid.
As for "discrimination," many forms exist today with little protest or complaint from citizens or politicans. All you guys out there, try stopping by the nearest Curves (a gym for women only) and sign up for membership. Oops, that is a private club that does not permit men to join. Maybe some of you youngsters should stop by the gigantic retirement village near you and inquire about renting a home. You will likely find that there is an age limit that will keep young people from living there. Since they are a private company, they can keep you out. 2 years ago, my son was denied admission to a locally well-known and highly regarded school within walking distance of my home. A neighbor's son 2 doors down was accepted. Did it make a difference that my son is Asian and his is African-Americam? I doubt it, but then this is a private school, so they are free to admit whomever they wish.
Maybe these folks at the pool are racists. Maybe they are ignorant and/or rude. Or maybe they just want to relax at a private swim club without the noise and chaos brought on by a couple of dozen children, no matter there race.
Excuse me for a minute while I put on my fire-retardent suit...

July 9, 2009 at 7:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

seems to be a lot of speculation as to how the situation really went down. could it be that a large group of really wild, undersupervised children were disrupting others in the pool? i think that is very possible. i have been at pools that summer camps use and often times the children are out of control and are without a doubt not being supervised like they should. it's so easy and such a cop out to blame everything on race. like i said, maybe it was a group of bad kids who just happened to be black. it's 2009 people, we have a black president, let's quit trying to play the race card every time things don't go our way.

July 9, 2009 at 7:26 PM  
Blogger Dan said...

We have reached our Idiocracy... enjoy it people. It's all down hill from here. Once marajuana gets legalized as the only means to get out of economic turmoil, then we will truly be at our Idiocracy.

As long as a good quality education in America costs over 200,000 dollars per person, we are going to perpetually produce stupid people who will become nothing more in society than soldiers for our wars.

Racism is alive an well... and I know a few crazy white right wing screwballs that would love nothing more than to eradicate black people... so don't tell me it doesn't exist.

We are in an Idiocracy.

July 9, 2009 at 7:37 PM  
Anonymous not racist, i hate you all equal said...

if you disagree with the blacks or talk bad about obama you know you are a racist! I can remember not long a go a one Miss Vanessa Williams won Miss USA. For the life of me I can't ever remember a white lady winning the title of Miss Black America.

Yale is a all white school? Someone should dig up Solomon M. Coles and tell him that he really didn't attend Yale in 1872!

You know I can shoot holes in your entire post, cause we never see black people on tv unless it's BET?
GTF outta here.

Tyra Banks and Naomi Campbell have never graced the pages of any magazine! I wanna see day when we have a white woman on the cover of jet, ain't ever going to happen. I want my TWO DOLLARS BACK!

For the people calling me ignorant, isn't that the pan calling the pot white?

July 9, 2009 at 7:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Race relations pretty much boils down to respect and trust. Of the two, turst is the icebreaker. For ex: One can drive into any Jewish neighborhood, park, and stroll without concern at any hour. Same for an Italian community, a Czech/German community, Chinatown, a myriad of Scandinavian towns in the Great Lakes region, and the Cuban communities of Fla. But not in a black area!

When black neighborhoods become safe, the next challenge is respect, in which education is paramount.

July 9, 2009 at 7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who wants black people in their swimming pools? It is a disgusting sight and completely ruins the atmosphere of being there. No wonder they were told to leave. DUH. People should be allowed to maintain their standards you know.

July 9, 2009 at 7:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy tell us how you really freaking feel!

July 9, 2009 at 10:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can not stand a liberal. Do you see all this Black in America bullcrap that keeps going across the bottom of the screen on CNN? It's not even for two more weeks yet every five seconds that is what you see. What about hispanics in America? or white in America? or anything else in America? I mean get over it it's really, really sick. And if Black people are the future of this country we might as well leave because we are all screwed.

July 9, 2009 at 10:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Black people? The future? I think you grossly overestimate the significance of Blacks in America.

July 9, 2009 at 10:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No I think the media significantly overestimates the significance of black's in America. Sadly they are going to run it until the wheels fall off. Bunch of idiots.

July 9, 2009 at 10:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, in regards to CNN, they have Narvette (or something akin to that) that writes a column describing the trials and tribulations of hispanics in America. So, it's not just AAs that play the 'poor us' card. In either case, I'm aching, positively aching to watch this country over the next 50 years... I feel unique as someone that can't have children of her own, that I get to sit back and watch our country as we try to form a cohesive society without a majority population, and try to respect 'multiculturalism' over a nation 3000 miles wide, when the Belgians can't manage to do it across their country! Absolutely hilarious.

In terms of the story, I don't doubt that racist comments were made, but guess what, free speech is the @#$%ing basis of this country, which means anyone, anyone is welcome to their opinions. This is a private club, and they can tell anyone they want to to get away. The day we have the government enforcing its will on private organizations, is the day we have a dictatorship, or at least the strong foundations for it.

Honestly people, as Avenue Q states, everyone is a little bit racist, including blacks, whites, hispanics, muslims, Christians, etc. It's their pool, and hence, their decision.

In either case, if they've done this in the past to non-black groups, it seems like once again, blacks are jumping the gun, making it so fewer and fewer people give a damn when they claim racism.

July 9, 2009 at 10:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And to top it all off they are polluting our swimming areas. Is nothing sacred?

July 9, 2009 at 10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the story of the white kids that were letting off fireworks outside they're apartment building when they were deliberately and hatefully attacked by blacks. Did you see that story on fox? I have not seen it on any other news station. Yet right now it is not being considered a hate crime. I guarantee you that those black kids were calling them "crackers" and everything else. I also guarentee that it wont be considered a hate crime in the future nor will you hear about it on any other station.

July 9, 2009 at 11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I don't agree with the policy, I have to defend the right of the private organization to have the policy. All the negative comments are a knee-jerk reaction, many of which are without merit.

As already pointed out, discrimination already exists in many circles by private organizations. I'm not saying that all is right with their policy, but, again, I defend their right to have such a policy. Gender, age, and religious discrimination happens all the time, and we have become accustomed to it, and let it pass. This story gets a little flame, others pour gasoline, and soon it becomes a major piece.

How many local organizations are based around ethnicity? Many, I dare say. Do we get our ire stirred about these organizations, many of which have been around for years and years?

I didn't get employment because of my age. Do I have control of my age? No. But, employment was given to others much younger. It happens repeatedly, and without consequence.

Gov Rendell was on Lou Dobbs' program last night, "... we will get to the bottom of this." Mr. Governor, what is there that constitutes layers that need to be peeled away to get to the bottom? The private organization makes a decision on who they choose to admit, and who they choose to reject. There is nothing more complex to the matter. Why try to make it bigger, for the sake of political correctness?

This is one more unnecessary hot button that just stirs the pot.

July 10, 2009 at 6:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not knowing the entire set of circumstances, if I belonged to a private club, I certainly wouldnt want individuals with whom I didn't like, didn't want. Perhaps these kids were misbehaving; maybe being just plain nasty. Hell, I wouldn't want white azzholes in my private club.


July 10, 2009 at 11:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This from the Sunday Philly "Inquirer":" The Montgomery County swim club that sparked a racial furor when it disinvited a Philadelphia day camp of mostly black and Hispanic children last month wants to invite the group back, a club official said today."

Search for "Valley Club" to read the whole story.

A club spokesman says "It's the right thing to do."

Not banning the group --which was comprised mostly of black & Hispanic kids --would've been even more right.

Having a "club" is one of the oldest ways to ban any group you don't like from "invading" your inner sanctum. And yes, it was and is used by all races. That doesn't make it right.

And "clubbishness," taken to its extreme, allows for the type of mindset that makes the Palestine question unsolvable. Seems to me that once upon a time, whites tried to make the the Southern US a "club."

July 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seems to me that the stronger tribes of Africa tried to make a stronger Africa by selling weaker negroid tribes as slaves! Africa made a starving club!

July 13, 2009 at 12:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To those who think that blacks had no significant role in America, I ask you to read American history and see who helped to build the White House, and who did much of the labor that helped build America until the Civil War, and thereafter. Sure, whites did labor -- but blacks did more than their fair share. America surely wasn't alone in having a racial majority dominate a racial minority, but to deny that blacks had a role in American history is just plain ignorance. Black Africans exploiting other black Africans, absolutely. Prejudice and ignorance knows no class, no race.

July 13, 2009 at 10:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is great. I have been wondering about why Whites are racists, and no other race is......

Proud to be White

Michael Richards makes his point...............
Michael Richards better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point.

This was his defense speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act. He makes some very interesting points...

Someone finally said it. How many are actually paying attention to this? There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.

And then there are just Americans. You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'... and that's OK..

But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist.

You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you... so why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?

You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day.

You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.

You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.

You have the NAACP. You have BET.... If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists.

If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.

If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR lives, we'd be racists.

We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that??

A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.

If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships... You know we'd be racists.

There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges', that would be a racist college.

In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us racists.

You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.

You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.

I am proud.... But you call me a racist.

Why is it that only whites can be racists??

There is nothing improper about this e-mail.. Let's see which of you are proud enough to send it on. I sadly don't think many will. That's why we have LOST most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won't stand up for ourselves!


It's not a crime YET... but getting very close!

July 18, 2009 at 9:44 AM  
Blogger Brant said...

What you posted there is a total hoax. Michael Richards never said it because Michael Richards never appeared in court in connection with his comedy club comments. It's just a racist rant. But attributing it to a well-known actor-comedian gives someone like you cover for your stupid bigotry.

July 19, 2009 at 10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look's like some valid point's were made,even though they weren't made by Mr.Richards.I found it very interesting.

Richard Lee

July 19, 2009 at 10:38 AM  

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